Leon Holden joins the Shed Life Podcast for a proper rugby yarn about the journey from Hauraki North to coaching Waikato in the NPC.

In this episode, Leon talks through his early days in club rugby, the people who shaped him, coaching in New Zealand, Japan and England, his time with London Wasps, the pressure of professional rugby, and why grassroots clubs still matter so much to the future of the game.

Karl Johnston, Jason and Leon also dig into Waikato rugby, the importance of community, what makes good players and good coaches, and why rugby is about far more than just the 80 minutes on the field.